August 29, 2005
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Muslim Chick Makes A Good Point
Only Not Really.....
"you might as well pay attention that your Beloved Bushy has renewed certain provisions in the Patriot Act that’s affecting us as Muslims. So much for loving your country, huh...."
This is exactly what I’ve been telling you is happening to the Muslim community. Many of you know that I am an expert on liberalism, but what many of you don’t know is that I’m also an expert on Islam. Its true, I’ve taken classes. Now lets analyze this comment. Muslim Chick’s negative reference to the Patriot Act is just more evidence that the Islamic community has beeen misguided through this whole situation. It seems that American Muslims have accepted this notion that America is the one who is against them. That’s ridiculous! All their hatred for this country should be directed to the terrorists, those are the ones giving you a bad name, not us! The terrorists are the ones killing people in the name of Islam. I really don’t understand how any Muslim could not agree with America’s foreign policy. It sickens me to see how twisted this situation is. This country has accepted the Muslim community, yet we are viewed as nothing but infidels who wish for the genocide of those in the Middle East. That’s absolutely wrong! We want peace in the Middle East! That’s why we are killing the terrorists, so the people of the Middle East can experience freedom. You should be embracing Republicans, not preaching hatred about them.
Anyway, Muslim Chick here makes a good point. She says the Patriot Act is affecting Muslims. Now, there are a couple ways to look at this. Technically the Patriot Act is affecting Muslims, along with the rest of the American population. But that’s not what I think Muslim Chick means. I think Muslim Chick means (correct if Im wrong Muslim Chick) , I think Muslim Chick means the Patriot Act is affecting Muslims in a negative way. Now, just that statement alone shows how twisted this situation is. The Patriot Act doesn’t affect Muslims in a negative way, it affects terrorists in a negative way. You inability to see a moral difference between peaceful followers of Islam, and Islamic extremists confuses me. Now I know you libs out there are just waiting to for me to cross the line in this post, just waiting for me to say something offensive so you can write about it in your not so popular left leaning blog.....so Im going to have a little fun with this. Muslim Chick, as I said before, I don’t understand why you don’t see a moral difference between the Muslim community and Islamic terrorists, and sadly that forces me to ponder on the question........................... Is there really a difference at all?
Morrison
Comments (27)
The Muslim communities could help end this problem if they would kick all those supporting terror out of their groups. Many of them refuse to do this. Until they do this, the terror will continue.
"Many of you know that I am an expert on liberalism, but what many of you don’t is that I’m also an expert on Islam. Its true, I’ve took classes."
Maybe you should have TAKEN an English class.....Mikey boy.
The muslim's dont condone terrorism because if they did they would be viewed by other muslims as bad muslims.
Instead of assuming that it is some predispositional hatred for the USA that drives criticism of your country maybe look at the reasons espoused. They can be summed up with the words 'foreign policy'. A history of invasions, backing horrific dicators and countering domestic political movements all create resentment.
Abbas, stop defending terrorism. We are not talking about US foreing policy, we are talking about islamic terrorists.. why arent muslims condoning them? answer that question before you start your smear campaign against the US.
while most of your reasoning is correct, Morrison, you are incorrect on some counts...some of us are against Muslims and Islam. I used to treat it like the rest of the false religions, then September 11th happened.
Well, Morrison, not all muslims condone terrorism. In fact, the Fiqh council of North America recently issued a fatwa on terrorism, in order to reaffirm their "absolute condemnation of terrorism and religious extremism." If that's condoning, I'm a Republican. Also, the PATRIOT ACT affects all of us in a negative way. Do you realize that the federal government can now search your house and your possessions without probable cause or a warrant? BAM! There goes the fourth amendment. You can also be arrested and held indefinitely without being charged with a crime or having access to a lawyer. BAM! There goes the sixth amendment. How do they pick their targets? By watching what certain people say and do. The instant anyone says something a little too un-American, they're thrown in prison. BAM! The first amendment has fallen to the floor, deceased. However, the second amendment is luckily untouched. Thank God! Sadly, I think that Muslim Chick is correct in her assessment of how the PATRIOT ACT is affecting the Muslim community is correct. Although many will deny it, we still live in a racist country. Not overtly racist, and certainly not nearly as racist as it once was, but still racist. This leads to innumerable injustices, among which racial profiling against Muslims ranks high.
I thought we killed terrorists so that America would be secure not for freedom of people that should do it themselves. Course we had either active or passive support for our invasion of Afghanistan from a vast majority of the Islamic world, including Iran. Why are they against us now. Cause we are full filling Osama's promise that the Americans want to rule over Muslim land. We fund the Suadi and Eygptian dictators, we have American troops on holy ground, we are no honest broker come the Israel-Arab Conflict, etc. The terrorists are over here, because we are over there.
I heard a statistic somewhere (don't take my word for it though, I'm source-less) that about 80% of British Islamic clerics have stated, on the record, that had they known an individual in their congregation had been planning to perpetrate terrorist acts, the clerics would not turn them in. So that's at least 80% of Islamic leaders that either condone terrorism or are apathetic to it. Hmm...Islam a peaceful religion? I think not.
ok, badcheese, ur comment is irrelevant to the ongoing debate, since u have no source for your point. i heard a statistic somewhere, dont take my word for it, im source-less, that 80% of islamic clerics in britain would turn the individual in. there, your point has been countered.
islam is only as violent as the societal interpretors make it. just like christianity; if u use the bible word for word, i believe there would be close to the same amount of violence in it as the koran. the KKK, and other christian fanatics (mr robertson...) demonstrate that interpretation is the crux of religious violence. our goal should not be to eliminate islam, but instead to propegate the peaceful teaching of islam, something that war invasion and occupation does not make easy. hell, its possible that it will work, but my point is that that strategey will have more death, violence, unrest, and take longer then other more diplomatic and crosscultural intervening measures.
morrison, I definetly agree with you on some things and disagree with others!
there are many amereicans such as myslef who supports muslims all the way, yes, we are fighting against terrorism which is a good thing, but the problem is that there are also hidden reasons behind thsoe fights.
The search for oil and power are also reasons behind "thos good causes" the way america fights against terrorism , hurting innocent people, Muslims that are not responsible for such acts, what have they done to desreve that?
yes, there are many corrupted muslims that are giving islam a bad name, but if you think about , every sinlgle religion has good people and bad, we should NOT generalize !
well, you made some good points in this entry,
interesting posts! I'll definetly be back!
have a good one!
well mr. morrison. idk. it didn't really make me mad. i agree with you that some americans want peace in the middle east but you must understand that some of them want to kill all the people in the middle east. omg i just noticed something on here...next time i see you i'm going to kick you in your forehead. but yes back to what i was saying. ummmm.... i don't think that the patriot act is affecting all muslims in a negatvie way but it is affecting some that way. and don't act like you don't know that the true muslim community doesn't agree with these "islamic" terrorists.
it is pretty amazing that the great Morrison has trouble trying to understand complex problems and situations... I figured he would understand that not everything was black and white and not every action was alone in leading to a reaction... in this subject alone you have to look at several different Muslim groups, US foreign policy in various Mid East countries, the goals (announced or otherwise) of the terrorists, the Patriot Act and its effects on US Muslims and so on... so many different things that Morrison tried to swing down in a couple of paragraphs... and at the end, he could not understand it all... it is a shame, maybe the Great Mind of Morrison will take the time from between leaving notes to all the pretty girls on Xanga and finding odd ball quotes to discuss this subject more... we can only hope...
BTW- when you "condone" something, you make an excuse or overlook some action... to "condemn" means to express strong disapproval...
These posts force me to reflect on the role of religious extremism in terrorism.
As far as I'm concerned, interpretation of terrorist acts has created this shield (if you will) of religious extremism ... something like "Oh, my goodness, all these terrorist acts were caused by Muslims ... so it MUST be a religious thing." It's basically handing the terrorists a ready-made excuse... though I don't doubt that there are some religious tenets to terrorist acts, I believe many other aspects are included as well, the main one being that terrorists see America as a threat to their way of life. In countries where equality is nearly nonexistent and the "elite" hold the power, democracy and equality would be considered threatening.
But then we'd have to beg the question of how democratic and equal America actually is, and that's a whole different battle.
Morrison, I would encourage you to read the Quran, if you haven't already, before calling yourself an expert on Islam.
you dont have to read the Quran to understand that radical Islam is bad and anyone who doesnt condemn it is just as bad in my view..
Thank you Morrison *hugs* also, those pictures are so crazy. Those people need to get a life and stop wasting their time bashing the president, geez!
Hi. Can I tell you something? Ok here's a little secret. No one and I mean no one is an expert on Islam. Not even the Islamic leaders. An expert means that you know everything about it correct? Ok so if the leaders themselves can't be experts then who the hell are you to come in and be like "I've taken classes so that makes me an expert." Good job but no. Unless you've actually lived Islam as a way of life and read every book about the religion then you're just a little boy who's tryin to talk shit that they can't back up. Sadly, that's what you are at the moment. So please actually think your thoughts through before speaking because otherwise you're just gonna screw up even worse and cause more problems for yourself and others. And have a lovely day.
"I’m also an expert on Islam. Its true, I’ve taken classes."
Well at least you fixed up the bad grammar in your post, no thanks to me pointing it out.
Morrison,
Tu es plus arrogant qu'un homme français.
RY- let me see if I can put this in another light... then you don't have to read the Bible to know that radical Christians blowing up abortion clinics are bad and anyone who doesn't speak out against them are just as bad... is this your line of thought?
hmm...Morrison does make some decent points but he sure has some dumbass sycophants. Take for instance, SoCal_sweetie. The reason Americans criticize and speak out against a political leader is well, if you haven't noticied, America is a democracy. If people feel that a leader hasn't been doing his or her job effectively, they have a right to voice their opinion. I mean how else do you think change will come about? Maybe if you watched the news once in a while you would see that
hahaha "Morrison does make some decent points..."
lol
welcome newbie
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why did u say yawn
do i know u?
have i eva written to ya!
Oh wow! You just assumed that ALL Muslims agree with "Muslim Chick". Is that a little closed minded or am I wrong?
Very close-minded xcountry007........very
hey you right-wing bushwacker!
at least Cindy Sheehan has done something about what she believes in, i dont see other mothers or fathers whos still support the war after their son or daughter has died going aroung getting people to join the pro-war movement, all they do is sit on their pourch with a 12 gauge and a Budweiser waving the american flag...you right-wingers dont do anything to help us or the troops, and because of this that is why Bush's approval rating is at 36%, so suck on that you conservative shit head.
"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism" - Thomas Jefferson
WTF are you talking about, Ray? The pro-war people who have lost sons in the war don't have the need to go around flaunting the fact. Unlike crackpots like Sheehan, they already know what they need to know, and don't need to attend "protests" just to show it.
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