September 23, 2005
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Two Dads? Two Moms?
In This Country Marriage Is A Sacred Institution
"Can you honestly give me a reason, that follows some sort of logic, for you to be against gay marriage? Please don't say it's against your religion, because I said a reason that follows logic, and if you want to say that homosexuality is weakening this country, how would letting them marry or raise kids weaken it? The kid won't be psychologically disturbed, and if they are, it's because of people against homosexuality teaching their kids that it's wrong, so their kid would tease/bully a kid with two dads or moms. .......Please, feel free to ‘enlighten’ me."
With a sure Roberts confirmation nearing, this issue is sure to be hot topic of discussion throughout the country. Andrew from Massachusetts here doesn’t seem to understand what this country is about. In ths country, marriage is a sacred institution. The left loves to complain about the divorce rate, the divorce rate is horrible in this country, that is all the more evidence that suggest we shouldn’t be attempting to destroy this institution any further. Allowing gay’s to obtain this status would weaken the values that make this country what it is. One of main talking points that the libs like to use against people who are trying to protect the institution of marriage is that government should not interfere with the personal lives of Americans.
Although this might seem correct, it is a dodge. The moment you get married the government is interfering, they even give you little document saying you’re married. The number one reason why gay’s wish to breach the borders of this religious institution is that they want the benefits that the United States government would legally have to give them if they were married. Government interfere is exactly why gay’s want to be married! This notion that government should not interfere in the marriage is ludicrous because government is and has been interfering in marriage since the birth of this nation.
Not only that, gay marriage is not accepted by most religions. Gays getting married is the moral equivalence to a Jewish male having a Bat Mitzvah in a concentration camp! Gay marriage is a total contradiction if I’ve ever seen one!
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Comments (26)
Well, seeing as how marriage is a religious institution, the government has no business have anything to do with marriage. The only thing the government should be allowed to give is civil unions, regardless of who the two people are.
*having, not have
Damn,I hate early morning classes.
I think they are also contemptuous of real marriage. I really do.
I think gays want the benefit of the marriage penalty tax. That's what it is.
I agree with both BimmerPhile and WyomingSheepRanch.
That's the first time that's ever been said.
Good Lord... I am going for the trifecta... I agree with Neo in his agreement with Bimmer and the Sheep F'er... what was the name of that REM song?
thanks!
is there such a thing as a quadra-fecta of agreement???
One solution is to assign "Civil Unions".
- The licenses that the "state" issues can either be "marriage" (for Man and woman) or "civil union" (for Nambla pedophyles, Gays, Lesbians, Commune-ers, Insest-ers, et.al.)
That way everybody gets to milk off of the government (ehem tax cuts), and we can keep the term "marriage" to mean what it's meant for millenia... "man and woman"!
when this whole thing really blew up last year, I wrote a column about how it could be solved by either calling it civil unions or even allow common law to be used... I had a few "Christians" tell me that those ideas were unacceptable and the quicker that people realized that homosexuality was a sin, it (homosexuality) would go away...
Also, before others start on the pedophilia (and possibly beastiality) kick... let's remember that sort of sex/relationship is not consensual... Incest? I am not getting in to it... to be honest the mention of these represents a slippery slope form of argument...
"Gays getting married is the moral equivalence to a Jewish male having a Bat Mitzvah in a concentration camp!"
When I first read this and posted, I figured I was done... then I was reminded of something I wrote and placed that up here... then for some reason this quote caught my eye... if this isn't one of the hyperbolic things I have ever read, then I don't know what is... but I shouldn't be surprised concidering the source...
And Mikey, I know you are not a expert on Judaism but Jewish males do not have a Bat Mitzvah... they have a Bar Mitzvah... Jewish females have a Bat Mitzvah...
"And Mikey, I know you are not a expert on Judaism but Jewish males do not have a Bat Mitzvah... they have a Bar Mitzvah... Jewish females have a Bat Mitzvah... "
I think that may have been intentional.....you know, cuz he was talking about gays? Dunno though.
I thought at first but as I read his example again it looks more like he made a mistake...
wow, I think Altshift, Bimmer and myself really need a hobby. Parsing Mitzfahs of any shape and size is a bit overkill me thinks. And me posting about you posting about it is worse...
Bimmer is 100% dead on.
Okay. Bimmer's right, but I'd like to illustrate one more little point ...
If you're gay, and you can find a church that'll marry you, great. Go right ahead.
If you're straight, and you can find a church that'll marry you, great. Go right ahead.
It's hard to sympathize with completely obliterating religion from government ... if anyone's ever been to Washington D.C. and the monuments, you'll see what I mean. But they should stick to unions, and that should be it. Finito.
Everyone is in agreement? Okay I'm looking on the horizon right now. Wait... wait... nope. No pale rider. I was sure this was a sign of apocalypse.
But if people get in a circle and start singing Koombaya, I'm out of here.
Now I want to watch some Clint Eastwood.
how about Saving Private Ryan? and if anyone's from Indiana, Jeff Drozda pushed through SJR 7...constitutional amendment banning gay marriage...if you know anyone from Indiana, tell them that they need to vote for it when it comes up for a vote in the next two elections...
Heh, interesting thing. Democracy is about the majority of the people deciding how they want their country to be -- yet, at least in some states where gay-marriage bans were passed, they're being petitioned.
maybe so Sends but there is a distinct difference...
Ok, religiously, I shouldn't g along with the gays and the marriages of them. That's what's in my religion. But speaking from past experiences with gay people, in their defense, it really isn't their fault that they're like that. It was in them since they were little and you can't fight an inborne thing. So why can't they get married? Why does it always go back to the issues of money and "marriage taxes"? If some gays get married for the marriage tax then can't we say that some straight couples do it for the same reason? It's only logical right? We can do it, so can they. So I'm sorry but your argument here seems "ludicrous" as you would say it. Honestly Morrison, put some more thought into these things. The whole point of a debate is to be able to say something in such a way that makes everyone believe what you say. You're just giving us a piece of thread to pull on so that the whole things unravels. Nice tries though. Have a lovely day.
"Bombs Away!!
The Gay Marriage Thing
If we put aside the aspects of religion, government and societal mores, what we are left with is biology.
We are a heterosexual species with the capacity to reproduce. Our offspring are also given the ability to reproduce. That's called "normal".
Men and men, women and women cannot reproduce. Biologically that would be called "abnormal". So when same sex couples want to marry, or to have kids, what they are really trying to do is offset the uncomfortable feelings that come from being abnormal.
They have feelings of being incomplete, or even unacceptable. I don't blame 'em. But by trying to jam "marriage" equivalence down the throats of normal people, they have raised all kinds of fears and defenses in the civil and religious communities.
They don't realize that they are fighting a basic human condition. Why does their getting married affect those who disagree? In their attempts to elevate themselves to "normalcy", they cause those who are "normal" to feel devalued somehow. That immediately puts them on the defensive and they will find many reasons to be opposed to same sex demands.
Accepting an abnormal equivalent to their own marriages would have the effect of making those marriages seem less valued by society and by the government. Also. those who have a religious position will see theirs as a sacred alliance. By being in a normal heterosexual marriage they are able to participate in the good of their families and their country. They do this by producing and rearing normal children who are also capable of continuing the human race.
I suggest an option that would be a lot easier for gay people who want to cohabitate. Since what they want (and deserve) are the financial benefits derived by heterosexual unions, they might consider the following:
Accept their "different" sexual status, fall in love, be happy, pledge loyalty to one another, apply for a civil union status, adopt a kid if that's what they want, negotiate with their employers for equal benefits and stop trying to convince society to accept that what they do is normal.
God bless America.
Hi "Morrison"
Congrats on having a great sense of humor. It's lost on a few. They are so intent on disproving things, that they spend most of their time looking for spelling errors and dangling participles.
I can see why they miss many well thought out points. Hang in there. You make me feel proud and humble.
God bless America.
An Alternate Solution to Gay Marriage
No need to change existing laws. Keep the existing marriage arrangements and licensing procedures just as they are.
Only one requirement:
On the marriage certificate, one person in the couple will sign on the "Husband" line; the other must sign on the "Wife" line.
There, that ought to do it.
God bless America.
"By being in a normal heterosexual marriage they are able to participate in the good of their families and their country. They do this by producing and rearing normal children who are also capable of continuing the human race."
boymarine... I just picked this part out but there were other somewhat mentions to it... let me ask you then, if a man and woman want to get married and either the man or the woman can not reproduce, does that mean they are abnormal and should just get a civil union? What about those men and women who don't want to have children but still want to get married? I just need a clarification here...
As far as Morrison's humor missing people... um... sure... and I have not seen one person correct his grammar... so I know you were trying to make Mikey feel good but those claims are baseless...
Hi "a/s/d"
Yeah, that's right - everybody's abnormal! Give me a break. I'm talking biology here and I'm referencing the entire human picture - again you're always with the exceptions - what point in the discussion does that expand? Just keep going for the conflict - go for the contrary view - yeah, that's real good stuff.
Along with the dangling participles, you really love to pick up on particulars, inconsistencies, details, and subsequently miss a lot of what is being discussed!!!
Something tells me that you may not be able to learn much more than you already know about things - but then, what the heck do I know?!
God bless America.
boymarine... no, what I asked was a logical question... if you are saying that one of the main goals of marriage is reproduce, I have offered two groups that can not or will not reproduce... these are not exceptions as you so called state... I was not being snarky but asking a legit question...
Oh... I miss a lot of what is being said? Give me a break... I do not miss it even though sometimes it is hard to stomach the absolutism that happens... if you are mentioning the Bat Mitzvah v. Bar Mitzvah thing... yep, that is me being a butthead... or someone that knows there is a difference... someone that respects the difference... but then again, our host is filled with an arrogance that is only stroked by his fans fawning over him and he continues to make comments that he knows it all...
You are right, you do not know me... you do not know how much I value learning... and part of learning is also discussing... this is one reason I spend time in discussions... each day I read from both sides of the aisle... each day I argue and discuss (depending on the issue) from both sides... screw it... think what you want to... consider me an idiot who does not see your particular side of the world if it makes you feel much better...
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