September 26, 2005
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Peace Mom Arrested!
“Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests. One man climbed over the White House fence and was quickly subdued by Secret Service agents.”
“Sheehan, 48, was the first taken into custody. She smiled as she was carried to the curb, then stood up and walked to a police vehicle while protesters chanted, ‘The whole world is watching.’”
“Liberals Dont Support The Troops!”
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October 1st 2005
Comments (40)
she really looks like she is in terrible grief……nice little plublicty stunt indeed
yes they do.
No they don’t.
She seems to be having a good time. I think she liked being picked up by those “men”. She seems to get picked up quite a bit by men. Hmmmmmmm?
yes. they do.
That picture scares me. She looks so freakin creepy.
Nutso.
Sheehan is such an idiot. The media has taken her as their pet… and distorted how she was treated in Crawford.
Let me tell you. I’ve been to Crawford and it is about the most Republican city in the United States. The NY Times went around and found the one liberal–who didnt actually live in Crawford but in a neigboring town– who was able to disagree with the president’s policies.
Sheehan needs a bullet.
-Taylor
my goodness, way to spit acid.
sounds like a lot of animosity coming from the right.
Yeah… Sheehan needs a bullet… let’s not stop there, let’s lock up anyone who disagrees with the policies of this President, put them in camps and put a bullet in the back of their necks… think of all of the jobs that would be created not only to build these camps or to guard them but also to kill them… our economy would be rolling then! Oh I forgot about all the newly opened jobs left by those who were sent away… that troubling poverty issue would also go away!(snarky hyperbole meter reading 1560%)
Of course it was a set up… of course she wanted to get arrested… and it did exactly what she wanted it to do, to be in the press…
as far as the Liberals Don’t Support The Troops talk, I will wait until Mikey puts it up there to see his accute understanding of the situation before I comment here…
Thanks for commenting on Chrissie’s site.
Awh.. not this woman again. When will she finally go home and “shut up”? Oh and yeah, that probably is the only time men are touching her. Gross.
Wow….
Do the people on the right who post here wish to dispense with democracy entirely? The Bill of Rights? Having to put up with ideas that differ from one’s own can be so tiring.
Have you ever heard of the right to protest, or is everthing your goverment do is right?
“Having to put up with ideas that differ from one’s own can be so tiring.”
There’s a difference between disagreeing and being a psycho. Out of the however many anti-war people that I’ve seen on xanga, I think I’ve only seeing one psycho.
I agree.
It is one thing to be anti-war, another to be psycho.
” or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,”
clearly she is acting irrationally – nobody is contesting that. but how about a little empathy and respect for a grieving, misguided mother?
in that photograph i don’t see a nutcase. rather, i see a woman who is confused and so deeply hurt by the loss of her son that she is engaging in behavior that ranges from silly to downright self destructive.
it really doesn’t need to be said that what she is doing is foolish. you all speak of honoring and respecting soldiers, then go off on a disoriented, grieving family member. do you think casey sheehan would be more outraged by his mother’s actions, or by the visceral and venomous reactions you all have had to her?
good point WSR…
She isnt disoriented. Her son didn’t die yesterday. She knows exacty what she’s doing and is making idiotic choices. Give her more credit than simply being disillusioned by her son’s death. She’s smarter than that. She knows CNN and MSNBC and the rest are all watching her… and she likes it. I think Casey Sheehan would be mortified to hear his mother bash a decision that he made on his own to fight for the country. The military is voluntary… no one forced him to go. And when you sign up for the military… expect the possibility of dying. They fight. It’s what they do. No one seems to understand war anymore. Everyone wants it bloodless and sanitized… and that’s simply not the way it is.
-Taylor
“She isnt disoriented. Her son didn’t die yesterday. She knows exacty what she’s doing and is making idiotic choices. Give her more credit than simply being disillusioned by her son’s death. She’s smarter than that.”
-”smart” and emotion are two different things. how presumptuous of you to claim to understand what would be an appropriate time of mourning, or how substantial an effect the loss of a child could be.
“The military is voluntary… no one forced him to go. And when you sign up for the military… expect the possibility of dying. They fight. It’s what they do.”
-I haven’t seen anyone here arguing the contrary. What I have seen is:
“Sheehan needs a bullet.”
I don’t see Sheehan as a psycho or anything of the like, but instead I just see her as a normal protestor. Yes it can be argued that she has become a puppet of the MSM, but then again I don’t necessarily believe in the evil “liberal” media. Anyway WittyHumorScreenname’s vitriolic comment aside, I think there is this distinct feeling among a certain number of people for her to go away. Her 15 minutes of fame should have gone a long time ago but she has yet again returned.
Although I don’t necessarily agree with her views or then again have that extreme feeling of her “needing a bullet,” frankly, I am tired of hearing of her. I’m not saying she should shut up or anything I’m merely stating how I feel.
I don’t think it was this worse compared to Jessica Lynch. I remember there were movie contracts to make a movie on her whole life. Thank god that didn’t happen.
“She isnt disoriented. Her son didn’t die yesterday.”
-Well she did lose her own son that she carried in her womb for 9 months and I really don’t think it is that easy to get over such a thing as that. I remember when my friend’s father died that he became depressed and lethargic for a whole year, and he still hasn’t gotten over it. So yes its tough…..but I’m sure some people might argue otherwise in the Sheehan case. Perhaps state that she is engaging in sacrilege by dishonering her son’s death, but whatever.
“Cause this is my United States of Whatever!”
I really don’t think anyone here has the ability to know what Casey would say about his Mom with any certainity… I do think that common sense says that he would be a bit miffed by some of the comments made about her but that really has less to do with politics as it does with the fact that it is his Mom…
Losing a family member is a tough thing to deal with and I would suspect even tougher when it is your child… people display grief differently… some just sit at home and cry while others go the opposite and take to the streets demanding change… and just for the record, I don’t think that anyone expects to die when they join the military as much as I don’t think people expect to die when they are flying or driving…
If it was merely a ‘grieving mother’ then I highly doubt the rest of the Sheehan family would have disowned her like they did, since they would be ‘grieving relatives’ as well. You don’t laugh while intentionall getting yourself arrested if you’re distraught with grief.
first off, her inlaws are the ones who disowned her and from what it sounds like, this happened before… the feelings were mutial… I grow tired of people deciding that she can’t be really suffering because a picture shows her laughing or smiling… if you lose a loved one are supposed to always frown and never smile? No, you have to go on with life and must know that by getting arrested she caused more people to notice her and her cause… again, I am not standing behind her on this and have started to consider her a bit of a cartoon but at least I am honest on the situation…
I have a feeling that she could hold a press conference and say “Yea, I don’t give a damn about my son — I just did this cuz I hate Republicans” and yet you’d still defend her. But that’s just MHO.
And you would be wrong… I defend her right to speak (since it is still a freedom in this country) but as I said I am not standing behind her on this subject (the war thing)… I have a feeling that you think all of those parents, spouses and loved ones who have lost someone in this war and who have spoken out against the war are wrong… but that’s just MHO…
Like I said before, there’s a difference between being against the war and the bullshit stuff this woman does. $20 says like 5 comments down you say that I’m against all people who are anti-war again.
I don’t mind dissent and disagreement. But, I believe there is a difference between disagreeing with policies and outright emboldening of the enemy. The three ring circus that took place in DC was absolutely deplorable. I have trouble sympathizing with a woman who traipses about the countryside claiming she is a mourning mother, yet every photo I have seen shows her having the time of her life. As her and her minions rise to the occasion and take the side of the enemy at every possible opportunity, I have to wonder if they realize how they are putting other people’s sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, in harms way in order to further their own selfish ambitions. Don’t think for a second that the terrorists are not eating this up. If they can divide us, they can conquer us.
I can undestand her grief… as a mother anyway. I think about loosing one of my kids and I don’t know how I could do it without them. But her son was an adult. He made a choice. And he ended up dead. But he was okay serving his country.
I lost my husband of almost nine years, too, to this war. It wasn’t by death but by cicumstance (he didn’t come back the same and didn’t want his family any longer). I know it is not the same but when you have a loving husband whom you have four kids and a life with leave and come back someone completely different… well, I always said he died. Our family is gone. Do I blame the government? No. Do you see me out there along with all the other women who lost their familes either by death or circumstance? No. It was still a choice made. My ex wanted to be in the military. And when he was called up two weeks after our fourth was born and had to leave immediately, we knew what might happen. But we also knew he was going to serve his country. I still havent’ changed my mind about what is going on. I believe that our prensence there is needed and was always the right thing to do. I lost my family and who knows if my kids will be okay. They had a father for a long time there for them. I still would not get out there and act a fool and trample on my ex’s service or for that fact, the sacrafices and blows that the families take. I like feeling like it was worth it. I was a stay-at-home mom for all those years and I depended on him for everything. I work now and live a life I thought I never would have to. Every day when I have to send my baby to preschool, hating it because I never had to do that so I could work, makes me realize everything that was lost. Every month when I get my small paycheck because I have no education or experience because I thought he would take care of me makes me realize what I lost. To hear that woman out there makes me feel like the death of soldiers and the death of families was all in vain. There is a way to go about things. Her way is the wrong way!
there is no way possible that the insurgents or even the terrorists are going to conquer us… it is impossible… as far as helping the enemy, I don’t buy it… there are enough other things happening that already does that… from the SAS guys that were captured to the web site offering free porn if you send in pictures of a dead Iraqi… not to mention the columns, comments and speeches in which people refer to the Muslims as Islamofascists, mentioning the idea of a crusade or pushing the idea of Christianity is the Real religion and Islam is a sham…
bimmer… that was a parody of what you said and I will take the $20 anytime…
There’s a difference between disagreeing and being a psycho. Out of the however many anti-war people that I’ve seen on xanga, I think I’ve only seeing one psycho.
I’m a little confused so I hope you don’t mind clarifying this statement BimmerPhile. Are you saying that Sheehan is a psycho, or are you saying that you’ve only come across one anti-war poster on xanga whom you would consider to be a psycho? I think you’re saying the latter rather than the former but I just want to be clear.
Do I think Sheehan is still grieving? Sure, and I don’t think any of her actions indicate otherwise. That said, one can be grieving and in full control of one’s actions. I think Sheehan knows full well what she’s doing. The only question really concerns her motivation. Does she protest simply to make a political point and is using her son’s death merely to further those ends, or does she genuinely seek justice for the death of her son (NOTE: So that Morrision doesn’t interpret my argument incorrectly…. again, I’m looking at the issue from an angle that Sheehan might be coming from if she views President Bush’s actions as being the cause of her son’s death WRIGHTLY OR WRONGLY).
As for her arrest, is there the same level of condemnation for… oh I don’t know… abortion protestors who blocked access to clinics and were arrested as a result? Civil disobedience is a tool that has been used effectively long before Sheehan’s arrest. Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr. and countless others have enganged in this type of protest and were arrested as a result. (NOTE: I am NOT comparing Sheehan to Gandhi and MLK Jr., just illustrating that the civil disobedience often results in arrest).
I was saying both. I thought I made that clear, but if it wasn’t I apologize. As for her being arrested, it was because they didn’t have a permit. Also, in DC, you do what the S.S. tell you to because they’re allowed to shoot to kill — no questions asked — if they think you are a threat to the President.
Actually, there are questions asked… and if the President is in Texas when secret service shoots a protestor sitting in front of the White House, there are going to be some questions.
Well, do you really feel like testing that theory of yours? I sure as hell don’t. Being a dick is not worth dying for.
I concur.
I would have loved to be one of the law enforcement officer.
Shut her up… Permanently
i think she took it way too far. its not even about making a statement anymore.
TheJimsters: Very brave of you to make idle threats against a 48 year old woman…. God bless American and pass the ammo and if you don’t love it leave it, right?
God Bless you Jimsters… let’s weed out the weak, political unstable and the undesirables to make this nation even stronger… the Constitution is only good when it is protecting our rights and not the other side…
“and if you don’t love it leave it, right?”
Well see, disagreeing with the government over something is totally fine — but hating everything that the country was founded on (including capitalism) definitely means it’s time for you to re-evaluate why you’re living in a country you hate when there’s plenty of socialist / communist / muslim / whatever countries out there.
Why anyone would choose to be associated with such a fool is unknown to me.